Re: Maximising research access vs. minimizing copy-editing errors

["Sally Morris \(ALPSP\)" <sally.morris@alpsp.org>]

My experience in 11 years as a journal publisher was the same as 
Anthony's. In fact, we calculated that overall we paid out more 
in total to journal editors and proprietors ... e.g. societies 
... in fees or royalties, plus expenses .. often including 
substantial university overhead, plus society profit share or 
royalty, than we did to book authors.

Sally Morris, Chief Executive
Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers
Email:  sally.morris@alpsp.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hamaker, Chuck" <cahamake@email.uncc.edu>
To: <liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu>; <dgoodman@Princeton.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:33 AM
Subject: RE: Maximising research access vs. minimizing copy-editing errors

> Seconding what Anthony has to say,
>
> In the 1980's we were able to verify some editors were receiving
> substantial "honoraria" for their work and or name associated
> with some very high priced journals.
>
> Chuck Hamaker
> Associate University Librarian Collections and Technical Services
> Atkins Library
> University of North Carolina Charlotte
> Charlotte, NC 28223
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony
> Watkinson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:16 PM
> To: dgoodman@Princeton.EDU; liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: Maximising research access vs. minimizing copy-editing
> errors
>
> I am sorry but this is just not correct. Building models of how 
> much publishers contribute to the information chain is not 
> helped by inaccurate statements. Expenses are expenses and 
> honoraria are something different - as the tax authorities 
> recognise. Let us call them fees if that is clearer.
>
> I can imnmediately think of a clinical journal where the 
> publisher fee explicitly buys the time which would otherwise be 
> spent earning from private practice. Quite a number of editors 
> of journals retire early because the income from the journal 
> (the honorarium) enables them to live in comfort while drawing 
> their pension. This is not a practice that publishers should 
> encourage but it does happen - quite a lot.
>
> I am reviewing journals that fit these specifications in my 
> mind as I write but it is impossible to go into any more detail 
> because any specific information even if disguised might be 
> recognised and these matters are highly sensitive. I am of 
> course aware that David Goodman is serving all of us in trying 
> to tease out these questions, which is why his initial 
> statement surprised me.
>
> Anthony Watkinson